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#30059: "For ARENA rewards count the PEAK of the SCORE instead of the current score"
#30059: "For ARENA rewards count the PEAK of the SCORE instead of the current score"
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Szczegółowy opis
• Proszę skopiować i wkleić treść błędu wyświetloną na ekranie, o ile jakaś się pojawia.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Proszę opisać co chciałeś zrobić, co zrobiłeś i co się stało
• Jaką masz przeglądarkę?
Google Chrome v87
• Proszę skopiować i wkleić tekst wyświetlany w języku angielskim zamiast w twoim języku. Jeżeli masz zrzut ekranu z tym błędem (dobry zwyczaj) możesz użyć Imgur.com, żeby wrzucić go do Internetu i potem skopiować łącze do niego tutaj.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Czy ten tekst jest dostępny w systemie tłumaczeń? Jeśli tak, to czy został przetłumaczony więcej niż 24 godziny temu?
• Jaką masz przeglądarkę?
Google Chrome v87
• Wyjaśnij swoją propozycję precyzyjnie i zwięźle, tak aby jak najłatwiej zrozumieć, co masz na myśli.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Jaką masz przeglądarkę?
Google Chrome v87
• Co wyświetlało się na ekranie kiedy zostałeś zablokowany (Pusty ekran? Część interfejsu gry? Komunikat o błędzie?)
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Jaką masz przeglądarkę?
Google Chrome v87
• Która z zasad gry nie była przestrzegana w adaptacji BGA
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Czy naruszenie zasad gry jest widoczne w powtórce rozgrywki? Jeżeli tak, to w ruchu o jakim numerze?
• Jaką masz przeglądarkę?
Google Chrome v87
• Jaką akcję w grze chciałeś wykonać?
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Co starasz się zrobić by uruchomić tę akcję w grze?
• Co się stało kiedy próbowałeś to zrobić (komunikat o błędzie, komunikat na pasku stanu gry, ...)?
• Jaką masz przeglądarkę?
Google Chrome v87
• W którym momencie gry pojawił się problem (jakie było aktualne polecenie w grze)?
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Co się stało kiedy próbowałeś wykonać akcję w grze (komunikat o błędzie, komunikat na pasku stanu gry, ...)?
• Jaką masz przeglądarkę?
Google Chrome v87
• Proszę opisać problem z wyświetlaniem. Jeżeli masz zrzut ekranu z tym błędem (dobry zwyczaj) możesz użyć Imgur.com, żeby wrzucić go do Internetu i potem skopiować łącze do niego tutaj.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Jaką masz przeglądarkę?
Google Chrome v87
• Proszę skopiować i wkleić tekst wyświetlany w języku angielskim zamiast w twoim języku. Jeżeli masz zrzut ekranu z tym błędem (dobry zwyczaj) możesz użyć Imgur.com, żeby wrzucić go do Internetu i potem skopiować łącze do niego tutaj.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Czy ten tekst jest dostępny w systemie tłumaczeń? Jeśli tak, to czy został przetłumaczony więcej niż 24 godziny temu?
• Jaką masz przeglądarkę?
Google Chrome v87
• Wyjaśnij swoją propozycję precyzyjnie i zwięźle, tak aby jak najłatwiej zrozumieć, co masz na myśli.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Jaką masz przeglądarkę?
Google Chrome v87
Historia zgłoszeń
2020 gru 14 19:30 • Wonderful Plays • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
Mandatory field
2020 gru 15 8:33 • Wonderful Plays • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
Relevant discussion topic on the forum:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18661
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18661
2020 gru 31 8:04 • compte obelète • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
So if i understand, if a tie happens, we gonna use their actual ones to break it, but if is the same again whit their actual, use the average amount of score win, if still a tie, then, simply make the earlier one the winner.
2020 gru 31 13:29 • Wonderful Plays • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
In case of a tie I would propose to actually use the current score.
I also believe the ELO has a hidden component. So it's actually like 1684.48 instead of 1684 that is showed, so ties are much less likely than we think.
I also believe the ELO has a hidden component. So it's actually like 1684.48 instead of 1684 that is showed, so ties are much less likely than we think.
2020 gru 31 15:26 • Wonderful Plays • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
I made a video talking about this and another suggestion:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQ_rRukeeM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQ_rRukeeM
2021 sty 5 9:50 • mumpsimus • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
I don't see that there is a huge problem with parking? If the top player stops playing, they will be overtaken by others, because it's relatively easy to gain points as it is. I think scoring in arena is fine as it is.
2021 sty 6 6:40 • ucarts • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
Parking is certainly a valid problem, which is why a lot of systems will decay ratings of players who have not played very many games recently, or hide those players from the list. Using a peak score would work too. I'm not certain which of these solutions is the better approach, but I think either would be an improvement.
For me, I've found that the high volatility (K factor is too large given the low spread of ratings among the playerbase - I can elaborate but do not want to go off topic too much) can cause my rating to be higher than my true skill - at which point playing any further games would likely decrease my rating. I personally switched over to casual games when I made it to the top 20 and will plan do so again this season (well, maybe I'll wait until I'm 1st or 2nd before I park). There definitely wouldn't be a point where I stop playing arena in order to preserve rating if the system used peak rating instead of current rating, since then I'd have nothing to lose by playing more.
As for those who think that a high-skilled player who stops playing will simply be overtaken by people who play more, I would encourage them to look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system
For me, I've found that the high volatility (K factor is too large given the low spread of ratings among the playerbase - I can elaborate but do not want to go off topic too much) can cause my rating to be higher than my true skill - at which point playing any further games would likely decrease my rating. I personally switched over to casual games when I made it to the top 20 and will plan do so again this season (well, maybe I'll wait until I'm 1st or 2nd before I park). There definitely wouldn't be a point where I stop playing arena in order to preserve rating if the system used peak rating instead of current rating, since then I'd have nothing to lose by playing more.
As for those who think that a high-skilled player who stops playing will simply be overtaken by people who play more, I would encourage them to look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system
2021 wrz 3 23:23 • dschingis27 • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
"2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve."
Not really sure if it would overall incentivize to play more. Yes, you are not afraid of loosing but this part, "they just have a chance to improve" is not entirely true. Very often your peak score will not change at all after a play session, increasing the peak score can get really hard and people might quickly get stuck at a certain ranking and lose interest.
However, it really just needs to be tested out!
Not really sure if it would overall incentivize to play more. Yes, you are not afraid of loosing but this part, "they just have a chance to improve" is not entirely true. Very often your peak score will not change at all after a play session, increasing the peak score can get really hard and people might quickly get stuck at a certain ranking and lose interest.
However, it really just needs to be tested out!
2022 sty 17 3:26 • Respublik • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
It would increase play anyways if active players aren't parking to protect their score.
2022 gru 27 21:14 • KongKing123 • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
Bump.
2023 lip 11 16:31 • Wonderful Plays • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
This is still very much needed, BGA when this is getting implemented?
2024 lut 18 10:39 • KongKing123 • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
Bump to avoid automatic closure.
2024 lip 8 21:04 • Respublik • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:
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