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#48711: "RED THUMBS should be disabled in Arena."

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2021 Sep 18 10:51 • Countess-Aleksey • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

2021 Sep 19 02:51 • ufm • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

While there are players handing out red thumbs only to preserve ranking (I've seen some), red thumb also prevents kingmakers, multiple accounts, cheaters, verbal offenders, or other miscreants from being matched together. It's a complex problem...

2021 Sep 19 13:10 • Countess-Aleksey • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

How can playing in the Arena be fair, when you can give out RED THUMBS, view who has joined a game and last of all start a New Season on a higher level?

2021 Sep 25 19:24 • ufm • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

I didn't say current system is 100% fair. I said voiding red thumb would not make Arena fairer.

2021 Sep 27 23:06 • RedAlert39 • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

+1. Giving red thumbs doesn't prevent people from kingmaking, etc - it just prevents you personally from being matched with them, which does nothing to affect the overall fairness of arena matchmaking.

2021 Oct 11 20:03 • Tybus913 • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

Agree with ufm. One of the reasons I give out red thumbs is if someone quits mid-game. I don't want to waste my time having to play those people.

2021 Dec 9 13:00 • frankenStain • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

agree except for team based games (like tichu) , so its possible to avoid being teamed up with horendous partners - also to avoid cheaters (which also happens in tichu)

2022 Jun 10 12:03 • FHenker • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

This exploit was extensively used by Sussuarana Onitama last season to try to steal the #1 ranking in Onitama: by giving red thumbs to me (and potentially other strong players), he biased the matchmaking to such an extent that I estimate his arena rating to have been inflated by at least 100-150 points in some moments!

At least in 1v1 games, there is NO reason why Arena matchmaking should take red thumbs into account — it opens up room for manipulation and cheating, and we have this very concrete example in Onitama!!

2023 Oct 23 09:30 • Sjarmtrollet • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

So very strange that red thumbs would impact arena matchmaking....that I would never assume.

2024 May 27 08:23 • Malo77 • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

RT system needs improvement, there are some RT abusers.
Limit nb of RT per day/week, and or timelimit them so a review every 1-2-3 month is needed to keep them or remove them by default.

2024 Jul 23 19:40 • Pechnik • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

Red thumbs are obviously a method of unfair competition that many players on this site use, especially in less popular games. It's a shame that the site allows this.

2024 Dec 15 13:30 • RazorOz • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

Problem is the solution is complex. I could only get on board with something like this if the penalties for quitting an Arena game were significantly higher than they are now, because otherwise for players not abusing the red thumb for competition purposes, and instead using it as I would assume its attended this will be beyond tedious.

Because I don't want to play the army of players who think it's ok to play for an hour and quit on the last turn when they know they have lost that exist for certain games. If the penalties for such behaviour were harsher then this would make sense, but otherwise it's untenable to me.

The other issue is some of the other actions taken encourage using the red thumb for other reasons. Again, it's not something I do, but I can understand why players red thumb players they don't want to play because of the ELO reducer, because games where you can't win ELO, only lose are also tedious. This issue is one that could easily be fixed by going back to how it used to be, but so far BGA have stood by this change, which will lead to more behaviour like this.

2025 Mar 9 09:00 • yuniboshi • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

"red thumb also prevents kingmakers, multiple accounts, cheaters, verbal offenders, or other miscreants from being matched"

It does not. As long as BGA refuse to moderate these players (you cannot even report them - site tells you to "Red thumb" them instead) they will continue to exist because there will always be a next victim and because making new accounts to manipulate rating with is free. Competitive integrity is not gained by letting people choose to not play with cheaters, it is only gained by removing cheaters and bad sport from the pool and so is a bad reason to keep red thumbs in arena.

2025 Mar 29 08:33 • NaCl_duke • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

Tactical red thumbing has gotten so bad at Tapestry that one player can block the formation of real time arena tables.They start an arena table but since they have almost everybody on red thumb nobody else can start a new table. If you do not want to play with certain players, fine, but why can I not start a separate arena table? My progress bar is stuck at "Searching for players..." never goes to "Searching for 1 player...."

2025 Jun 9 00:24 • Le007n • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

Can we get an update on the dev stance to whether a change will be made here?

This issue is getting ridiculous now and is very frustrating. As someone who has actively played arena for many years and been fortunate enough to have season wins for several successive seasons, I now struggle get a game since many other active players have just added red thumbs to prevent matches and losses.

Arena is going down the route where it's not going to be the best player in games with less players but the one that plays the system which is wrong

2025 Sep 14 03:15 • Ella_is_alive • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

There shouldn’t be red thumbs in arena. If you are among the best 20, some very good players give you the red thumb and play only with weaker opponents.

2025 Oct 22 08:02 • Exotic Dreams • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

Nope. Will not support this:

I want the option to block:

1) Players who take advantage of technological problems to kick other players out of games to score freebie points. These players cannot even be reported because this is not against the rules.

2) Passive aggressive players

3) Arena players who play with multiple accounts.

2025 Nov 9 15:10 • HoaryUrchin • Ta propozycja nie została jeszcze przeanalizowana przez programistów:

The problem is not wanting to be matched for cause.

If BGA had a setting so players could choose to not match with any player who has gone over their time limit or other basic infractions, the need for the red thumbs would be reduced. Players should also have the option to turn off chat to remove the need to red thumb verbally abusive players.

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#48711: "RED THUMBS should be disabled in Arena."

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